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Mammoths are still today. They live in remote places, and people periodically meet with them. The main mystery: why "supreme" science does not want everyone to know about this? What is hidden from us? Maybe the mammoths were dying wrong ...?
On the issue of mammoths, like most people, I was in illusion for a long time. I believed that they died out in the last ice age. He knew that their remains were found in the permafrost, and he was thinking about the possibilities of cloning this amazing ancient animal. But recently it happened to me to reread Turgenev's story "The Chorus and Kalinych" from the cycle "Notes of a Hunter". There is an interesting phrase:

"..." Yes, here I am a man, and see ... "At this word, Horus lifted his foot and showed a boot, tailored, probably from mammoth skin ..."

In order to write this phrase, Turgenev needed to know a few things, rather strange for the middle of the 19th century in our today's understanding. He should have known that there was such a beast as a mammoth, and know. what kind of skin he had. He should have known about the accessibility of this skin. After all, judging by the text, the fact that a simple peasant living among a swamp wears mammoth leather boots, for Turgenev was not something out of the ordinary. However, this thing is still shown as somewhat unusual, riotous. It should be recalled that Turgenev wrote his notes almost like a documentary, without fiction. Then they are notes. He simply conveyed his impressions of meeting with interesting people. And it happened in Orel province, and not in Yakutia, where mammoth cemeteries are found. There is an opinion that Turgenev expressed allegorically, bearing in mind the thickness and quality of the boot. But why then not from the "elephant skin"? Elephants in the 19th century were well known. But the mammoths ...

According to the official version, which we are to debunk, the awareness of them was then insignificant. One of the first "academic" skeletons of a mammoth with surviving remnants of soft tissues was found by hunter O. Shumakov in the delta of the Lena River, on the Bykovsky Peninsula in 1799. And it was a great rarity for science. In 1806, the botanist of the Academy MN. Adams organized the excavation of the skeleton, and delivered it to the capital. The exhibit was assembled and exhibited in the Kunstkammer, and later transferred to the Zoological Museum of the Academy of Sciences. Only these bones could see Turgenev. Before the discovery of the Berezovsky mammoth and the creation of the first stuffed animal, it will take another half-century (1900). How did he know that the mammoth had the skin, and even determined her by mistake? So, whatever one may say, the phrase, dropped by Turgenev, puzzles. I'm not talking about the fact that the "forever frozen" mammoth skin is not suitable for furrier's business. It loses its qualities. And did you know that
Turgenev is not the only writer of the 19th century who let slip about the "extinct animal"? None other than Jack London, in his story "A fragment of the Tertiary era," conveyed the story of a hunter who met a live mammoth in the open spaces of northern Canada. In gratitude for the treat, the narrator presented the author with his mukluks (moccasins), sewn from the skin of an unprecedented trophy. At the end of the story Jack London writes:
"... and I advise all couples to visit the Smithsonian Institution. If they submit the appropriate recommendations and arrive in time, they will undoubtedly be accepted by Professor Davidson. Mukluks are now kept with him, and he will confirm, if not how they were obtained, then, in any case, what material they went to. He authoritatively claims that they are sewn from the skin of a mammoth, and the whole learned world agrees with him. What else do you need? .. "
And in the Tobolsk Museum of Local History kept the harness of the 19th century, made from mammoth leather. Come on, why the skin is pissed off, when there is enough information about living mammoths. A lot of scattered evidence was collected by the candidate of technical sciences Anatoly Kartashov in his work "Siberian mammoths - is there any hope of seeing them alive". He was waiting for reaction to his texts, from the scientific world and in general, but he seemed to be ignored. We will become acquainted with these facts. Let's start from early times:

"Probably the first who told the world about Siberian mammoths was the Chinese historian and geographer Sima Qian (II century BC). In his "Historical Notes", reporting on the north of Siberia, he writes about representatives of the distant glacial epoch as ... living animals! "Of the animals are found ... huge wild boars, northern elephants in bristles and northern rhinos genus." Here's to you in addition to mammoths and woolly rhinoceroses! The Chinese scientist does not speak at all of their fossil status - we are talking about living things living in Siberia in the III-II centuries BC "

I myself have not read these "Historical Notes", they are referred to by such a serious researcher as MG. Bykov, she is rewritten by H. Nepomnyashchiy, and they both have me. As for the II century BC, it is hardly possible to trust this dating, since Chinese history was artificially extended into the past indefinitely. However, in our case this does not change the essence at all. "Historical notes" Sym Qian is clearly not 13 thousand years, that is, it was certainly after the ice age. But the testimony of the 16th century "... The Ambassador of the Austrian Emperor Croats Sigismund Herberstein, who visited Muscovy in the middle of the sixteenth century, wrote in his Notes on Muscovy in 1549: in Siberia" ... there is a great variety of birds and various animals, such as sables, martens, beavers, ermines, squirrels and in the ocean animal walrus ... In addition, weight, just like polar bears, wolves, hares ... ". Pay attention: in one line with quite real beavers, squirrels and walrus there is a certain, if not fabulous, then certainly mysterious and unknown, Weight.
However, this weight could be unknown only to Europeans, and for local residents this possibly rare and endangered species did not represent anything mysterious, not only in the sixteenth century, but also more than three centuries later. In 1911 Tobolsk P. Gorodkov wrote an essay "A trip to the Salym region." He was published in the XXI edition of the "Yearbook of the Tobolsk Province Museum" for 1911, and among other interesting things, which we will talk about below, there are also lines: "... the Salym Khanty" pike-mammoth "is called" all ". "This monster was covered with thick long wool and had large horns, sometimes" all "started between themselves such a fuss that the ice on the lakes broke with a terrible crash." "

It turns out that Siberian mammoths also traveled in the 16th century. Almost everyone knew about them, as the information was received even by the Austrian ambassador. And again the 16th century, this time a legend:
"Another legend is also known that in 1581 soldiers of the famous conqueror of Siberia Ermak saw huge hairy elephants in the dense taiga. Experts are still lost in conjecture: whom did the glorious warriors see? Ordinary elephants in those days were already well known: they were kept at court by the governor in zoological gardens and in the royal zoo.
And right after that we smoothly pass to the testimony of the 19th century:
"The New York Herald newspaper wrote that US President Jefferson (1801-1809), interested in reports from Alaska about mammoths, sent an envoy to the Eskimos. The envoy of President Jefferson, returning, claimed quite fantastic things: according to the Eskimos, mammoths can still be found in remote areas in the northeast of the peninsula.
The messenger did not see the live mammoths with his own eyes, but he brought special Eskimos' weapons to hunt them. And this is not the only known story, the case. About Eskimo weapons for hunting mammoths there are lines in an article published by a certain traveler in Alaska in San Francisco in 1899. The question arises: why would the Eskimos manufacture and store weapons for hunting animals that died out at least 10,000 years ago? Material evidence, however ... True, indirect. "Turgenev is not the only writer of the 19th century who let slip about the "extinct animal"? None other than Jack London, in his story "A fragment of the Tertiary era," conveyed the story of a hunter who met a live mammoth in the open spaces of northern Canada. In gratitude for the treat, the narrator presented the author with his mukluks (moccasins), sewn from the skin of an unprecedented trophy. At the end of the story Jack London writes:
"... and I advise all couples to visit the Smithsonian Institution. If they submit the appropriate recommendations and arrive in time, they will undoubtedly be accepted by Professor Davidson. Mukluks are now kept with him, and he will confirm, if not how they were obtained, then, in any case, what material they went to. He authoritatively claims that they are sewn from the skin of a mammoth, and the whole learned world agrees with him. What else do you need? .. "

However, in the Tobolsk Museum of Local History, a 19th century harness was kept, made of mammoth leather. Come on, why the skin is pissed off, when there is enough information about living mammoths. A lot of scattered evidence was collected by the candidate of technical sciences Anatoly Kartashov in his work "Siberian mammoths - is there any hope of seeing them alive". He was waiting for reaction to his texts, from the scientific world and in general, but he seemed to be ignored. We will become acquainted with these facts. Let's start from early times:

"Probably the first who told the world about Siberian mammoths was the Chinese historian and geographer Sima Qian (II century BC). In his "Historical Notes", reporting on the north of Siberia, he writes about representatives of the distant glacial epoch as ... living animals! "Of the animals are found ... huge wild boars, northern elephants in bristles and northern rhinos genus." Here's to you in addition to mammoths and woolly rhinoceroses! The Chinese scientist does not speak at all of their fossil status - we are talking about living things living in Siberia in the III-II centuries BC "

I myself have not read these "Historical Notes", they are referred to by such a serious researcher as MG. Bykov, she is rewritten by H. Nepomnyashchiy, and they both have me. As for the II century BC, it is hardly possible to trust this dating, since Chinese history was artificially extended into the past indefinitely. However, in our case this does not change the essence at all. "Historical notes" Sym Qian is clearly not 13 thousand years, that is, it was certainly after the ice age. But the testimony of the 16th century:

"... The Ambassador of the Austrian Emperor Croats Sigismund Herberstein, who visited Muscovy in the middle of the sixteenth century, wrote in his Notes on Muscovy in 1549: in Siberia" ... there is a great variety of birds and various animals, such as sables, martens, beavers, ermines, squirrels and in the ocean animal walrus ... In addition, weight, just like polar bears, wolves, hares ... ". Pay attention: in one line with quite real beavers, squirrels and walrus there is a certain, if not fabulous, then certainly mysterious and unknown, Weight.
However, this weight could be unknown only to Europeans, and for local residents this possibly rare and endangered species did not represent anything mysterious, not only in the sixteenth century, but also more than three centuries later. In 1911 Tobolsk P. Gorodkov wrote an essay "A trip to the Salym region." He was published in the XXI edition of the "Yearbook of the Tobolsk Province Museum" for 1911, and among other interesting things, which we will talk about below, there are also lines: "... the Salym Khanty" pike-mammoth "is called" all ". "This monster was covered with thick long wool and had large horns, sometimes" all "started between themselves such a fuss that the ice on the lakes broke with a terrible crash." "

It turns out that mammoths used to go to us in the 16th century. Almost everyone knew about them, as the information was received even by the Austrian ambassador. And again the 16th century, this time a legend:
"Another legend is also known that in 1581 soldiers of the famous conqueror of Siberia Ermak saw huge hairy elephants in the dense taiga. Experts are still lost in conjecture: whom did the glorious warriors see? Ordinary elephants in those days were already well known: they were kept at court by the governor in zoological gardens and in the royal zoo.

And right after that we smoothly pass to the testimony of the 19th century:
"The New York Herald newspaper wrote that US President Jefferson (1801-1809), interested in reports from Alaska about mammoths, sent an envoy to the Eskimos. The envoy of President Jefferson, returning, claimed quite fantastic things: according to the Eskimos, mammoths can still be found in remote areas in the northeast of the peninsula.
The messenger did not see the live mammoths with his own eyes, but he brought special Eskimos' weapons to hunt them. And this is not the only known story, the case. About Eskimo weapons for hunting mammoths there are lines in an article published by a certain traveler in Alaska in San Francisco in 1899. The question arises: why would the Eskimos manufacture and store weapons for hunting animals that died out at least 10,000 years ago? "
Of course, for 300 years, mammoths have not gone away. And now it's the end of the 19th century. They were seen again:
"In the McClures Magazine (October issue for 1899) in H. Tukman's titled" The Murder of the Mammoth "it is stated:" The last mammoth was killed in the Yukon in the summer of 1891 ". Of course, now it's hard to say what is true in this story, but what is literary fiction, but at that time the story was considered to be ... ».

Already known Gorodkov wrote in his essay "A trip to the Salym region" (1911):
"According to the Ostyaks, in Kintusov sacred boron, as in other burs, live mammoths, they are near the river and in the river itself ... Often in winter, you can see on the ice of the river wide cracks, and sometimes you can see that the ice is split and fragmented into a lot of not large ice floes - all these are visible signs and results of the mammoth's activity: the raging and divergent animal horns and back breaks the ice.
Recently, about 15-26 years ago, there was such a case on Lake Bachkul. Mammoth is a gentle and peaceful animal, but affectionate towards people; at meetings with a man, the mammoth not only does not attack him, but even flies and caresses him. In Siberia, one often has to listen to the stories of local peasants and come across such a belief that mammoths still exist, but only to see them is very difficult ... there are few mammoths now, like most large animals, they now become rare. "
Further, Kartashov chronicles the contacts of man and mammoth in the 20th century (based on the materials of Y. Golovanov, M. Bykova, L. Osokina):
"Albert Moskvin from Krasnodar, who lived for a long time in the Mari ASSR, talked with people who themselves saw woolly elephants. Here is a quote from the letter: "Ode (the Mari name of the mammoth), according to Marian witnesses, used to be more frequent than now, a herd of 4-5 animals (the Mari call it the phenomenon of oba-saun - the wedding of mammoths)."
The Mari in detail told him about the way of life of mammoths, about their appearance, about the relationships with cubs, people and even about the funeral of the deceased animal. According to them, a kind and affectionate obtusement, offended by people, at night turned the corners of shelters, baths, broke hedges, while making a dull trumpet sound. According to the stories of local residents, even before the revolution, mammoths forced the residents of the villages of Lower Shapa and Azakovo to move to a new place, which was in the area now called Medvedev. The stories contain many interesting and amazing details, but there is a strong belief that there is no fiction, or even just a lack of credibility in them. "
Well, that's all - there are mammoths, and not even very far. The fact is obvious. Everyone who had only a chance to meet with a mammoth saw him. They are geologists, hunters, inhabitants of northern regions. You can even give a summary map of the detected habitats of these animals. It's time to figure out how it happened that a living and a living animal was deeply buried in the ice age.

I am far from the idea that all the above testimonies remained unknown to the learned world. Of course not. Paleontologists (those who study fossil animals) their research always begin with a review of existing information. But, even with this information on hand, they will rely on the work of authoritative predecessors, to which neither geologists nor hunters belong.
It is interesting that I did not manage to find out a specific scientist who "buried" mammoths. As if, it goes without saying. It is known that even Tatishchev was interested in them. He wrote in Latin "The Legend of the Mammoth Beast". However, the information he received was the most controversial, often mythical. Most of the evidence described the mammoth as an existing animal. Tatishchev could hardly make a conclusion about the extinction of this beast. Moreover, the now dominant glacial theory of the death of northern elephants could not have arisen until the end of the 19th century. It was then that the scientific community adopted the dogma of the great glaciation. This dogma lies in the foundation of modern paleontology. In this vein, the artificial blindness of the scientific world is understandable.
Or is everything much more interesting? Maybe the catastrophe that killed the mammoths took place not so long ago?

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There have been reports throughout history of long extinct animals being spotted. Look at that strange large wolf creature that was killed recently. Was it a mutation or remnant of a little known species. Even if mammoths did die out they are getting closer and closer to getting enough substantial dna samples to clone them so they may not be extinct for long.

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My sources say no

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That video could be fake. And it is difficult to imagine a conspiracy like that around the mammoth. With what purpose?

Perhaps it makes sense to create a conspiracy around the extinction of mammoths 10,000 years ago to convince everyone that there was a great glaciation very long ago and to hide the global catastrophe on earth several centuries ago. As well as there are photos of pterodactyls in the 19th century. as well as there is a plesiosaur in the lake Loch Ness. I'll probably write a post on this topic.

Okey okey. If you say it...

Okey. You're kidding, right? Let me know.