With GREAT POWER - comes GREAT RESPONSIBILITY: NO MORE SPAM!

in #abuse7 years ago (edited)

Yesterday, @smartsteem received a 1 Million Steempower Delegation from @thejohalfiles.

We are extremely grateful for this and vowed to use this POWER to support GREAT CONTENT.

Now - there are some people, who think they are smart and try to abuse our system by creating Posts with EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY - which are then bought votes for.

THE PROBLEM: SPAM ABUSE

Smartsteem.com is the first voting-services with a detailed whitelist-system. This system however, is currently only partially active for @smartmarket (our Vote-Selling Market). Most of these Votes are for whitelisted-users only, but some are for everyone.

There might come a time where we will offer all of our services, ONLY to whitelisted-users. But we still want to allow Steemians who might not know about smartsteem yet, to use our bid-bot and our market.

However: From now on - we are NOT TOLERATING SPAMMERS that are trying to profit from @smartsteem or @smartmarket.

NO MORE SPAM

While everyone has their own opinion on great content - there is one thing most of us can agree on:

THIS - IS SPAM!

We understand that not every post can be a masterwork - but creating such low Quality-Posts in a timeframe of 1 hour - is NOT OK.

And then - this also happens:

NO-REFUNDS for ABUSE

Researching about abuse-cases and then doing the action of actually blacklisting them and refunding, takes time.

And time is valuable - which could be spend much better on actually improving SmartSteem.

That's why we decided to create a NO-REFUNDS rule for extreme cases (as above).

Now, if someone creates LOW-QUALITY POSTS but is not spamming us - we will refund the person and then blacklist him / her.

However - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

What is ABUSE?

1.) Plagiarism
2.) Technical Analysis without any details
3.) Pictures and Videos with a title and nothing else
4.) Memes copied form the internet

What counts as extreme-case?

Multiple Posts per Day with multiple transfers to @smartsteem or @smartmarket.

With GREAT POWER comes GREAT RESPONSIBILITY

So much Power is currently in the hands of smartsteem and we won't allow people to profit by abusing the system.

We understand that there is a need for promotion on Steemit & Co. - that's why we offer our services.

OUR GOAL is to EMPOWER QUALITY CONTENT ... and NOT SPAM.

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That's amazing. I hope you guys will be doing incredible works with it .

Thanks, very good post !!!!

Awesome Work!

Keep it up!!!

@cryptoinvestinfo

What is your favorite Hardware Wallet?

Ledger Wallet protects your bitcoins

It's a nice plateform I have tried their vote buy but still don't get I did not get the 2x yet as promised

Hi there, did you notice the refund?:

This happens when we can not upvote you with the expected rate, since there may be not enough voters at the moment.

It’s great to see an honest bot! I’m fairly new to Steem and searched for weeks before I even used one and came across yours, this is the only one I use so far , I like how you can just buy the votes as I don’t think I could really compete in the bids yet and plus I can’t really figure out how the bid votes work, I can’t believe there’s isnt any good videos even on YouTube or d tube explaining bid bots , maybe there is and haven’t found them but I have searched for the last month and haven’t found one , there are a lot of videos talking about bots and their results with different bots but there isn’t any videos explaining exactly how the bid bots work and what you are bidding/competing on etc

Thanks a lot for your meaningful comment Justin, I made this post more than a month ago but I think is still quite timeless on that matter. I could try later on to do a youtube and d-tube one, but it takes ages, I am waiting a friend to organize us on that matter. It will require some investment for proper lights and a lot of time.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@santana33/steem-robots-stop-losing-money-and-how-to-be-a-pro

Also there is another one about SmartSteem I made before joining the team, so far I use 90% of the time the SmartMarket and no other bot, just a little of MB, but only for comments.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@santana33/smartsteem-and-why-this-is-the-best-tool-i-have-seen-so-far-to-grow-organically

In case you have so far not enrolled to sell your votes, use this referred link below.

Awesome I’ll look into it !

so how does this work?
you just cast it however you want to whoever you want?
do you bother reading the posts as well?
do you cast more % of ups on a day old posts than a 2 day old posts?
how are you different from the others?
I just tried you and am not happy

edit : what happened to you won't be casting much on effort less posts?
you upvoted so many posts that fall on those ABUSES you enumerated there
just in case you don't know I checked
FYI and no offense your Steemworld account is very much visible to everyone

sample 1
sample 2
sample 3
and that last one tsk tsk tsk
should I go on?

comment upped for visibility

Hey @englishtchrivy,

thank you for providing cases which are eligable for blacklisiting.

@smartsteem as a bid-bot is currently open to everyone (except blacklisted) but this might change in the future. @smartmarket however works with a whitelist system.

are the one managing @smartsteem?
if not then this reply is just pointless
cause then they'd just keep upvoting those won't they?

How about a bit more respect?

I'm the creator, founder and developer of smartsteem.

But you would have known that if you would have taken a single look at smartsteem.com/team

I apologize for sounding hostile but believe I wrote that "no offense" didn't I ?

plus you can't really expect me to know everything right nor to read all of your info?
that's why I asked

so why the sensitivity of flagging?
did my comment fall on abuse which deserves flagging?
I don't think it's a spam or plagiarism and I hope you're not just hiding it

we're adults aren't we?
am 40 and Im sure you're above 18 so can we both handle a straightforward comment / questions?

EDIT : plus I clearly asked if you're the creator
how is that disrespectful?

and why flag the first comment?
and 44%?
to make it vanish really?

I would understand if you flagged the second comment
but you flagged the first one

I don't think it's fair so upped my comments for visibility
I asked a very relevant question on that first comment
I feel like you're doing me injustice for flagging it 44% just to hide it

I've removed the flag from the top comment and flagged your insult.

And yes - I'm able to handle a discussion but I won't tolerate dis-respectfulness. I have enough to do and finding the time to answer to questions and then getting shutdown - not acceptable.

Thank you for providing this service👍

Hey I had sent a transfer for first time and it was sent back right away. Thank you for the speed! I just wanted to see if I had made a mistake or if there was an issue with my post ? It’s my Vlog and a video of myself so I assume there wasn’t but just checking. Thank you for taking the time👍 Cheers

I love your way of thinking, and I love the fact that Johal @thejohalfiles supports it in such manner :-)

You just got an 100% upvote from me for your post, which means a lot (rather in an ideological than in a monetary sense ;-)) since I'm usually not the biggest bid bot supporter. Still your concept is in tune with the times and will be exemplary for your competitors.

All the best!

I agree too. With the power that smartsteem now has, it has a great responsibility to refuse to allow spammers to abuse it. The bots should be used for people who are pushing out great content. I am proud to be a part of the smartsteem community. I use the service which is great and I am going to be delegating. Thank you smartsteem for A1 quality service and commitment to end spamming.

Why doest it reply?

Thank you marly! I love the fact as well :)

And yes - I appreciate your support - a lot!

Well if you have Marlys seal of approval then it's all good for me!

Best get myself some content on the blockchain quick (but not too quick!)

Haha, I don't think you would ever be able to publish a spammy post, even if you wanted :-))

AWWW 😁

Thank you!

How's your Snow Time going? Board or Skis?

Awesome! Thanks for asking :-)
Am skiing. After a heavy snowboard accident a couple of years ago I decided to stick with what I know better :-P
Pics & videos coming soon...

1 or 2 bots are fine...not multiple where 100s of sbds and whales are voting for a mediocre post it's embarrassing.
You missed the snow Asher😁😁

I can only imagine :-)
My pleasure!

Hi. I wanted to know what time to expect returns for delegating steem power on smartsteem. I did it yesterday and was just wondering. Also I applied to be whitelisted nearly a month ago and have gotten no response. Thanks.

well the whitelisting is a manual process and we are going through them as fast as we can without losing quality and then the delegations pay out when you have over 0,5 sbd revenue

Oh how nice! So you are also part of the @smartsteem team @felander?
Lauter gute Leute hier am Start, sehr schön!! :-) Ich werde noch zum Bid Bot Anhänger, wenn ich nicht aufpasse... :-) Ha!

hey @surfermarly, I have been using his service for a while and I like the fact that I can choose to only sell my votes to whitelisted people. And this is just a way to avoid abuse on the platform and make sure that spammers and copypasters are not able to take to much advantage

Agreed - I think @smartsteem seems to be trying to do the whole 'support the community with a bot' thing the right way. I've submitted my channel for whitelisting and joined the voting community for 'good-content' only.

Hoping for big things from this project 👍

https://steemit.com/photography/@prashant/sweets

So I sent 3 sbd for this post and still I d’identità receive any upvote from your side

wow ..
master @prashant you are the best, I am very admired and very interested in every post you, you have a very extraordinary talent.
with that talent could be you who will make all mankind awe, and fascinated with the intelligence, the greatness you have master @prashant
hopefully with the talent and excellence you have can be learned by all humans around the world.
please help upvote my posting.

Yes, Smartsteem is rocking!
This is great :)

I am really happy for you :)

Hi smartsteem me send 5.01 sbd you are not upvoted my post plz check this and refund me https://steemit.com/photography/@alisanadeem/information-about-coconut

master @ahtasham12 you are the best, I am very admired and very interested in every post you, you have a very extraordinary talent.
with that talent could be you who will make all mankind awe, and fascinated with the intelligence, the greatness you have master @ahtasham12.
hopefully with the talent and excellence you have can be learned by all humans around the world.
please help upvote my posting.

Fighting spam will improve Steemit. Most people think that they can earn money without effort, posting some pointless things. We all should fight against it. Bring good content to improve Steemit. Good job.

That's exactly the point, @cicbar!

No spam is tolerated in Steemit!

Great more SP for paid upvoting bots....
This will be the downfall of Steem. There is just too much SP delegated too paid upvoting bots. That's why paid votes generate auto profit and allow abuse in the first place.
The whales keep delegating because it is basically money printing for them.

You are a wolf in a sheep skin @therealwolf. Telling others that you want to prevent abuse when you are actually enabling it with your service.
How about creating something useful with your coding skills like a new app on Steem. Everyone can create a voting bot...
Voting bots like yours don't bring any new users and only harm the system.

hey @zombee,

thanks for the feedback. I understand your concerns, but ..

Most people, don't have an account with over 500K SP that they can use, to promote their posts - like you. (Even if you believed that the cause would justify the action)

So they need an alternative. And while other services offer something similar, we are the first and most transparent which has a whitelist. (smartsteem.com/users/whitelist)

And this whitelist is the best way to prevent abuse from happening.

Will it remove abuse? No. Since we can only do so much and we can't look into what kind of future posts the user will create.

But we are actively blacklisting users who are producing SPAM-content.

Also - calling smartsteem.com simply a votingbot - is an understatement. We have @smartsteem, as bid-bot and @smartmarket which has over 2000 Vote-Sellers.

Anyways - I hope that you will see the value in it someday.

Sounds like a plan, although I fear some innocent people will get hit with collateral damage. At least its a start.

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We will research every profile thoroughly - as things are often subjective and to make sure that only abusers get blacklisted. If someone creates a low quality posts maybe once or twice a week and only upvotes it once a week with 1 SBD - then that is ok.

But for abusers who create 4 posts a day with copy-paste content and send 10 transfers per day to smartsteem - NOT OK.

Hi @therealwolf wishing you a great day. Just lookin for info about whitelisted members? Is there an advantage and if yes How to go about to become one.

hey @darsico,

Whitelisted members have the privilege to have access to more vote-sellers than regular users. This is also based on the received score (between 1 and 3).

In the future we might also make smartsteem whitelisted-only which would pretty much eliminate most of the basic-abuse problems. But for that - the whitelist has to grow a bit more :)

this is a great idea! Gee i hope i can get in what are the requirements to be whitelisted? My articles are not always a book but i can assure you i have the longest running Truth or Dare game by anyone anywhere ever, i have also asked the Guinness Book of World records to take a look LOL:))) It's been going on since 7/15/2017 or 7 months. And still going strong .
To your success @darsico

Feel free to look at a post I made over smart steem. I talked mostly about smart market but touched a little bit on the white list part of smart steem. Hope it's informative enough for you. Here is the post: https://steemit.com/smartmarket/@logank013/why-smart-market-is-the-best-upvote-bot-around

I salute the movement. It will be tough to find a preset filter as to where to draw the line because scammers will always filter down just below the set standard and skim what they can. "4 post per day, 10 transfers"... scammers will say oh ok 3 post and 9 transfers then. I'm not saying that you do not have a plan for that, truce. On the super bright side, even if you scale them down even a little bit then every amount saved counts. I'm all for this. I will have a scope to help rescue the innocent as always. Ultimate truce.

@truce You are right and that's why this has to be done manually. Similar as how reviews for smartsteem's whitelist have to be done manually (we have currently 5 Moderators) and all of this takes time. So that's why there is the NO-REFUND policiy for extreme abusers.